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Post  Alan From Rochester Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:38 am

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1st 1993 hit of any sort, and another step to $10 FRB Bingo

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Post  Alan From Rochester Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:45 am

Also the 1st time I got a TD hit in a category before a WG one, in this case 1993 $10. Usually if I don't have a WG hit I mark it there, but I want to mark at least one with TD first, and I occasionally TD mark such bills for other reasons.

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Post  Jack002 Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:57 pm

Congrats, Alan. I can't ever seem to get hits on non-georges. Even the Abes are lazy for me.

I had it all worked out once how many you had to EMS to get a hit. I think this is it.
Ones - 4.33 (So to get one hit EMS 4 bills)
Toms - 9
Abes - 8.22
Alex - 6.4
Andy - 10.33
Ben- ??
Grant - 4

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Post  Jack002 Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:06 pm

Based on the numbers I see for bills entered and hit here at TD it would be

George - 12 bills to EMS to get 1 hit
Tom - 49
Abes - 19
Alex - 30
Andy - 28
Ben- 89
Grant - 130
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Post  Alan From Rochester Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:31 am

The reciprocal of hit rate, interesting.
I can't check mien cuz the site's down again.
Also, even without that issue, my massive stealthing would screw with my stats in this regard.

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Post  Kalisiin Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:33 am

Hummmm...

I enter almost exclusively Georges...and, with my 13.6% hit rate, I get a hit for every eight Georges entered, approximately.

I have 21,632 total bills entered.

$2 - I have 2 entered
$5 - I have none entered
$10 - I have none entered
$20 - I have 1 entered
I have no $50 or $100 entered.

Therefore, I have 21,629 Georges entered out of 21,632 total bills, for a 99.986 percent entry of George.

I have never heard from the $20 or the 2 $2's I sent out there.

The $20 was entered on 8/3/2010 - nearly four years ago.
Likewise, the $2's were entered nearly four years ago, too....both on 8/2/2010.

To each their own, and that is the beauty of this hobby, but I, personally, have never understood the appeal of entering other denominations.
Why on earth would I want to spend $5 to put one bill out there, when, for the same five bucks I can put five bills out there, and have five chances for a hit instead of just one chance? So goes my logic. Or what passes for my logic. But again, to each their own.

I have never heard from any non-George I put out on either site. Admittedly, I haven't put many non-Georges out there, not even on the other site. I have very rarely encountered a non-George wild bill....I think once or twice I hit a wild $5. I'd have to look at my stats on the other site. I have never encountered a TD wild...other than my own comig back to me....my mother's....or trade bills.

As a rule, I never hit trade bills....and I also have an agreement with my mom that we do not hit each other's bills when we find them....unless we find them more than 100 miles from home. Then they can be hit, but only hit them where found, and then release them, do not bring them back home.
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Post  Jack002 Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:43 pm

The best argument you can make on why to EMS ones only is "Ones get around!"
I was a cashier for 10 years. The average cash transaction almost always involved a one dollar bill going out (mostly) or coming in. Less often the 5, then the 10 then the 20. Weeks would pass before I ever even saw a 100.
In 10 years the times I ever saw a $2 was like 3 or 4 times
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Post  Kalisiin Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:10 pm

Jack002 wrote:The best argument you can make on why to EMS ones only is "Ones get around!"
I was a cashier for 10 years. The average cash transaction almost always involved a one dollar bill going out (mostly) or coming in. Less often the 5, then the 10 then the 20. Weeks would pass before I ever even saw a 100.
In 10 years the times I ever saw a $2 was like 3 or 4 times

Very true.
Still, to each their own, and there's no right or wrong way to do this.

I was just explaining my own reasns for not really getting into marking other denominations, personally.

As to $50's and $100's...people ALREADY look askance at them, anyway...so why give them extra reasons to refuse the bill? I have had cashiers take a freaking counterfeit pen to marked ones I have spent before!!

As if anyone who was gonna take the risk of counterfeiting...woudl actually go about counterfeiting ONES?? Ya gotta be kidding me!
The penalty, if you get caught, is the same no matter what denomination, or how many of them...you make, right?

That said, we DID have a problem in my area with counterfeited $10's at one time...I am guessing somene decided most people trust a ten and don't think anything of it. But ONES??? You'd have to be insane to be counterfeiting anything at all, but ONES??? Takes a special kind of insane to be doing that, I'd gather.
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Post  Alan From Rochester Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:14 pm

I do enter as many $1s as possible to get the most bills out of the dollar value, which seems to be Kalisiin's logic.

However:
I sometimes circulate them by trading them for larger bills.
If I have more than $100 or so on me, I can't enter that many $1s in a sitting. So it fits with the as many as possible logic. Especially if I can't get any cool coins, I get at least a few larger bills.
Sometimes dozens of small bills are unwanted by the person/place where I'm intending to circulate some bills. (alternately, large bills or a particular denomination thereof are wanted)

If I come across large bills for these or other reasons, I may as well enter them.

I like getting at least one hit in various categories. Many of these categories are specifically for other denominations, are for series without $1s, or are for older series where I'm glad to find anything of any denomination.

And I just plain like $2s.

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Post  Kalisiin Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:53 pm

Alan From Rochester wrote:I do enter as many $1s as possible to get the most bills out of the dollar value, which seems to be Kalisiin's logic.

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And I just plain like $2s.

Pretty much my logic, yes.

And I like $2's too. But I KEEP them. And I don't mark them normally.
I know, I know, they aren't rare...but I like them anyway.

I admit, however, it is FUN sometimes to run up a bill of $9 and change at a fast food place, hand the cashier a $5 and 3 $2's and then stand back and watch their head explode.
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Post  Alan From Rochester Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:54 pm

Yeah, it's fun getting change from a $2, whatever the particular bills involved in the transaction.

On a somewhat related note, sometimes giving cashiers an odd amount to get an even amount of change confuses them more than an even payment with odd change. Like, $20.67-$8.67=$12 surprises them and $20-$8.67=$11.33 doesn't.

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Post  Kalisiin Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:52 am

Alan From Rochester wrote:Yeah, it's fun getting change from a $2, whatever the particular bills involved in the transaction.

On a somewhat related note, sometimes giving cashiers an odd amount to get an even amount of change confuses them more than an even payment with odd change. Like, $20.67-$8.67=$12 surprises them and $20-$8.67=$11.33 doesn't.

It doesn't surprise them...it totally flummoxes them. I blame our crappy education system for this.
Usually, they have a problem if you give them the coin change to even out YOUR change ... AFTER they put the transaction into the computer.

They truly cannot do something the computer didn't tell them to. They can't wrap their poor uneducated brains around it. And they absolutely cannot count change back the way we used to...remember?
"8.67 ... and thirty-three makes 9, 10, and 10 is 20...thank you, have a nice day!" THEY cannot do this. It is more than their little brains can handle.

I remember one time...TRUE STORY...I went into a convenience store to buy a cup of coffee...nothing else, just coffee. The bill was a buck and change. I gave him two dollars. Two marked dollars. He made a mistake entering this into the computer...entered $20.
AND I SWEAR BY WHATEVER GODS THERE MAY BE THIS GUY STARTED TO GIVE ME EIGHTEEN BUCKS AND CHANGE BACK!!

I stopped him, and informed him I'd only given him two bucks, and he started to argue with me. I pointed out that my bills were marked, so I could PROVE I had only given him two dollars. That finally settled the issue, I got my correct change and left.

To this day I wonder if the guy was REALLY convinced...and if he didn't just pocket $18 thinking that he would be over by that amount in his drawer, so he could get away with it.

Remember the old days, as a cashier? You put the bill with which the customer paid....SIDEWAYS in the drawer until you'd counted back his change...THEN you put his bill in the drawer right...that way, you always knew EXACTLY what the customer had give you, and you counted the change back, with no computer to help you? And what's more, you didnt NEED the computer to help you, either!
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Post  Alan From Rochester Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:07 pm

You'd think cashiers could do a kind of basic arithmetic key to their job, but yeah, a lot rely on the register for it. As much as I like technology it doesn't seem like it should be necessary here.

I personally do the math by subtraction rather than counting back up, but either works.

When I'm getting money back, I give the cashier enough small stuff to trade up for a larger bill (say $7.45+$12.55 to get a $20). That seems like a similar issue. They usually grasp that. Usually.

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